Performing in Europe was tremendously exciting for young musicians, new audiences, new country, more money, more girls, so what’s not to like? Because we were under age we had to get our parents’ permission to travel otherwise you can’t go, all the other guys’ parents signed but oh no not mine, but that didn’t stop me so I found a way to get there any way I could perform in German clubs in those days there were no DJs to back you up, the bands played all night long with short breaks in between we used to play five forty-five minute or seven half hour sets, which was absolutely exhausting, but the positive side to that was that you had a lot of time to get to know your instruments inside out and loads of time to try out new ideas and the tighten up the act